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Templeton makes headlines; Bunk follows up on old leads; McNulty takes an interest in the homeless.
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"It's not that you do shit, it's how you do it."
"Shit. I'll take any motherfuckin' money if he givin' it away, now."
"That's right. Wee-Bey walked in Jessup a man, and he gon' walk out one. But you out here, wearing his name, acting a bitch."
"You don't what, motherfucker? This how you pay me back for all the love I showed? Shit... I been kept you in Nikes since you were in diapers."
"The bigger the lie, the more they believe."
"Don't sleep on Marlo, he up in some shit here."
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 10:01 PM
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tw... You need to contact your service provider. Be it satellite, or cable, whichever. You're paying for a service, and they are to provide that service to you.
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 9:44 PM
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Could anyone tell me why this episode is not on my HBO On Demand. I dont wanna read below, but im excited to see it... I cant wait until next sunday plllleaaassseee
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 9:24 PM
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zoup: Personally, I think McNulty actually saved that homeless man's life by taking him to that shelter in Virginia. That poor man will get the treatment he needs, and be taken care of. That lady seemed sincere as she took the man in.
I think McNulty stood there looking at the man because he was thinking anyone could be in that man's shoes, even himself. He might had been thinking he himself could be on a destructive path, and end up just like that man, and wondering if his ex-wife and two sons would take care of him.
I think seeing the man drop his sandwich on the floor, then pick it back up to try and eat it was over the top for McNulty, and he had to get out of there. Whether or not he gave the man his pills back, that homeless man will get pills for treatment at the shelter. He'll probably end up in the VA hospital, or a nursing home. I think McNulty did good.
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Feb 4, 2008 9:12 PM
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Rawls has always had a thing for McNulty, in my opinion. However, with his position, and knowing McNulty is not gay, he can never make a move on him, so he chastizes him verbally, and that's how he gets off with McNulty.
Rawls probably goes home and fantasizes about McNulty behind him, as Rawls is leaning over the hood of a car, calling out his name. As sick as it sounds, I'm sure those type of things happen. Rawls may even have a few toys at home, with new batteries in them, and calls out McNulty's name as he uses those toys on himself. Rawls is a sexually frustrated old man who has to hide his homosexuality because of his position in society. He loves McNulty though.
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Feb 4, 2008 9:11 PM
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My wife asked me if I think that McNulty is going to commit suicide. I during the final scene was yelling at the screen "At least give him his pills, McNulty !!!" I can't believe that he just left that poor guy. He knew too. Terrible decision on McNulty's part.
Randy is now a fully victimized cog in the system.
The newspaper stuff is well... the newspaper stuff and does probably take away time from the street plot line. It's presence is to show how the media can take an angle and plug it in to an amplifier. You know... the bigger the lie...
It was nice to see Nick and a couple of the port guys. It is strange that even though Nick knows the location of the diner and can id Vondas and the Greek (who still make appearances there) that he is left to live without extended federal protection. Nonetheless, good to see him.
Okay, so Omar hit the ground and then quickly rolled to the right and around the corner and into the basement. Fractured leg perhaps, and is still on the hunt.
I have to think that he doesn't even stand a slim chance of making it. Yet he still hunts Marlo's people. Looks like next week he catches up with Michael, but apparnetly lets him live. I'm guessing because of his age or because he didn't see Michael in the condo shooting at him.
Omar is soo dead. It's not even funny. It's too bad though. I'll still hope for him, but with as dark as this is getting, he's as good as gone.
I still think that Marlo escapes death and capture somehow. I think that most of the Audience wants him to fall, but even if McNulty and Lester bring it home with the case, all of their evidence has been captured illegally. Say they bust him using the equipment, but then get caught on all the b/s homeless murder stuff. No one will take them seriously in court.
With all the darkness, Marlo gets away. At this point, Maybe Chris or Snoop take the plunge.
I suspect that all of the "good" bad-guys are going to eat it, while the "bad" bad-guys get away.
My Take at this point:
Probably Dead:
Omar
Slim
Bubbles
Whalen
McNulty
Get Away Scott Free:
Marlo
Snoop
Chris
Clay Davis
Simpleton probably gets promoted while our newsroom hero Gus is probably in line for a cutback.
We will need some sort of happy news to walk away with though. If it ends completely unhappily, the show will never get any real awards, albeit well deserved though.
Another week, another round of my opinions...
They'll change next week though.
Until then...
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 8:48 PM
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"Praz182 : Posting Quality / Not Quantity since 2008"
That should be your sig.
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 7:45 PM
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Praz182,
kudos to you for a wonderfully analytical description of our favorite TV series.
-Puma
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Feb 4, 2008 7:24 PM
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This show is a masterpiece of American History that deserves to go down in the same fashion as did Alex Haley's "Roots". Fifty or a hundred years from now, people will be looking at this five season show and piecing it together as a true mirror of American society.
"The game is the game." Avon Barksdale has repeated over and over. The beauty of the Wire is, that through the city of Baltimore, we have seen many games. We have seen the game through the eyes of Avon, a high level leader who was born into the life and who has a soldier's code that is just as moral if not more so than the next man's. We've seen it through Stringer's eyes; a man who had enough brains to do many things, but who let himself muddy his chances by getting his feet stuck in two warring worlds, the straight and crooked (although it's hard to discern which is which). We saw the game through the eyes of soldier's like Bodie (who died fearlessly, with his chin up, like the soldier McNulty even said he was), like Michael (who made a deal with the devil to save his brother from harm). Men like Slim Charles, Prop Joe, and others who live with reason and rules within an anarchic world (those who know to let sleeping dogs lie, and who know that you can mess with a man and his family on a Sunday morning).
And, we saw other games. The games the brass run, fudging numbers, choosing sides, favoring some and condemning others who see police work differently. We saw Daniels struggling to move up, we saw Rawls always beating McNulty down, we saw Landsman standing in the way of progress, we saw Bunk frustrated with the confines of the job, Carver realizing what policing is all about, and Burrell giving his final bow...
The politicians played their own games as well. From the city councilman who made it to the Mayor's office and ended up not giving a crap about what he'd preached about, a white boy in a black city, to the local dock union leader who cared so much for his own but never saw the light of day after the Greeks had their way with him. Frank Sabotka's death was a real blow...
There's more games, too. The games of men like Omar, the newsroom politics, the school system failures...
The beauty is that "The game is the game" no matter where, or by whom, it's played. The Wire just sought to show us the layers of society. Starting from the little boys who dealt for Brodie, a mid-level player, to String and Avon who he hustled for, to the Greeks they cut their drugs from...up to Gray Davis and the dirty politicians they ran with. From the bottom to the top, and back to the bottom, all intricately connected.
I love this show. I'll be sad to see it go. Each character that comes in and off the screen is special and genius. No matter how great or small their lines. They bring a kid like Nico into the show second season, we don't see him two and a half seasons straight, and we see him cussing out Carcetti in this episode. And it brings home the point. It's all one big big game. All of it. All the different games running together, mixing together, losing themselves in eachother.
Sorry for rambling, but the impact this show has cannot be ignored. It is simply the best.
My personal hopes for the ending: Bring it back to full circle: Let Michael be the man D'Angelo never got the chance to be. He has no loyalties to Marlo. Let him snitch and put Marlo, Chris and Snoop behind bars where they belong. The Greeks have the connect with one last person other than Prop Joe, and that's Avon---bring the man back to play his game, because he is truly good at it. Let McNulty go back to his beat-walking days...but let him go back to the bottom knowing he got to work his one great case. Maybe knowing Marlo's case has been put to rest will give McNulty some peace. Baltimore will remain Baltimore. The game will be the same game, played at different cycles through time...only the characters changing!
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 6:41 PM
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> You speak of words of wisdom of an older day. We
> yougins just don't give a FU@K yo. We get down
> whenever wherever.
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> It's a new day......
Not really. Whether you give a damn or not, the end result is exactly the same. Dead or in jail. It doesn't really matter how you carry it, the end is the same. Youngins of the so called new generation don't carry it any different than those of the early-mid 90s. The new generation has no monopoly on hopelessness or ruthlessness. They were not the first, and won't be the last if things stay as they are.
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Feb 4, 2008 6:14 PM
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what anyone think about this-
The leak could possibly be Narese. She's a shady bi*ch, as beautiful as she appears. She be talkin' sh*t to Burrell and Clay Davis. She came at them real strong. She shows no fear. She did keep that file on Daniels that Burrell gave her.
She was also involved with some shadey dealings in the 1st episode of season 5 where she's in the newspaper about selling property to some drug dealer. I'm a have to watch ep 1 of season 5 again to see if I missed anything significantly hinting that she may be involved in those stolen indictment papers. If she can deal with one drug dealer to sell property to, who's to say she wasn't involved with Prop Joe in getting him those indictment papers? She just might be the leak Rhonda Pearlman was asking about. She probably was so harsh on getting rid of Burrell and Davis so that there be two less people who might find her out. I bet she uses that file against Daniels to get rid of him too.
I think she's a wolf in sheep's clothing. The devil in disguise, so to speak.
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 5:30 PM
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> > The game's the same, just got more
> fierce....
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> > Problem with the old days is that them da old
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> > Marlo ain't in it for long longevity. He told
> Vincent
> > he just wanna wear the crown no matter the cost.
> He
> > ain't trying to be the slickest or the
> smoothest. He
> > can go down long Tyson did at the hands of
> Buster
> > Douglas. But as long as he can say that he was
> once
> > undisputed heavy weight champion, he cool
> widit!
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> Agreed. However, just because he'll inevitably fall
> doesn't mean it pays to make moves that hasten his
> demise. We're all going to die someday, but we don't
> blow off life because of that fact.
You speak of words of wisdom of an older day. We yougins just don't give a FU@K yo. We get down whenever wherever.
It's a new day......
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Feb 4, 2008 5:23 PM
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> The game's the same, just got more fierce....
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> Problem with the old days is that them da old
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> Marlo ain't in it for long longevity. He told Vincent
> he just wanna wear the crown no matter the cost. He
> ain't trying to be the slickest or the smoothest. He
> can go down long Tyson did at the hands of Buster
> Douglas. But as long as he can say that he was once
> undisputed heavy weight champion, he cool widit!
Agreed. However, just because he'll inevitably fall doesn't mean it pays to make moves that hasten his demise. We're all going to die someday, but we don't blow off life because of that fact.
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 5:03 PM
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> > I reiterate, Marlo ain't giving a phuck about
> them
> > co-op b!tch's. Hook up or book up is the phrase
> for
> > today. Take dis package at a higher price and
> > shudaphuck about it. NO MORE MEETINGS!
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> No need for him to be slick if he's the man like he
> says he is. He's anxious to take Stringer on his
> jacket, but not in a rush to take responsibility for
> Joe. Not giving a damn does not protect him from any
> resulting consequences. Bodie didn't give a F either,
> and he got dead. Not giving a damn is not admirable,
> nor is it particularly smart for a drug dealer.
> There's a time and place for everything, and now is
> definitely a time for Marlo to be wary. Would be a
> shame for him to make the same mistake that Prop Joe
> made so soon after his demise.
The game's the same, just got more fierce....
Problem with the old days is that them da old days...
Marlo ain't in it for long longevity. He told Vincent he just wanna wear the crown no matter the cost. He ain't trying to be the slickest or the smoothest. He can go down long Tyson did at the hands of Buster Douglas. But as long as he can say that he was once undisputed heavy weight champion, he cool widit!
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Feb 4, 2008 5:01 PM
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Did anyone else see the UFO on this episode. When Mcnullty is talking to the statue in the park, you can clearly see it when the backdrop goes to the Baltimore skyline, while Mcnullty is on the phone. In the upper left hand corner is a ball of light. It shoots straight up in the air, then zig zags to the right across the Baltimore skyline. If you didn't notice it, check it out, it's there. INTERESTING SHYT.
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Re: Episode 56: The Dickensian Aspect (On Demand)
Feb 4, 2008 4:50 PM
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> I reiterate, Marlo ain't giving a phuck about them
> co-op b!tch's. Hook up or book up is the phrase for
> today. Take dis package at a higher price and
> shudaphuck about it. NO MORE MEETINGS!
No need for him to be slick if he's the man like he says he is. He's anxious to take Stringer on his jacket, but not in a rush to take responsibility for Joe. Not giving a damn does not protect him from any resulting consequences. Bodie didn't give a F either, and he got dead. Not giving a damn is not admirable, nor is it particularly smart for a drug dealer. There's a time and place for everything, and now is definitely a time for Marlo to be wary. Would be a shame for him to make the same mistake that Prop Joe made so soon after his demise.
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