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Kima is complete and utter scum! To betray Mcnulty, Freamon and Sydnor the way she did is beyond low. Supposedly, there is an African American cop who dies in the last episode; if there is any justice it should be Kima. Now behind my disgust for Kima; her death would actually fit the narrative. Simon has made a point that anyone who tries to be a reformer always ends up dead, broken or diminished in some manner. Kima broke the sacred rule of snitching on a fellow officer and as a pre-emptive to her supporters she didn't do it to serve the greater good. This pompous, self-righteous traitor will find herself in a position of peril in ep 60 at the hands of someone who escaped because of her betrayal. She will call for help and officers knowing what a snake she is won't respond. In short, dead Kima. Let the Kima deathwatch begin! 
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 3:13 PM
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> Kima is complete and utter scum! To betray Mcnulty,
> Freamon and Sydnor the way she did is beyond low.
> Supposedly, there is an African American cop who dies
> in the last episode; if there is any justice it
> should be Kima.
>
> Now behind my disgust for Kima; her death would
> actually fit the narrative. Simon has made a point
> that anyone who tries to be a reformer always ends up
> dead, broken or diminished in some manner. Kima broke
> the sacred rule of snitching on a fellow officer and
> as a pre-emptive to her supporters she didn't do it
> to serve the greater good.
>
> This pompous, self-righteous traitor will find
> herself in a position of peril in ep 60 at the hands
> of someone who escaped because of her betrayal. She
> will call for help and officers knowing what a snake
> she is won't respond. In short, dead Kima.
>
> Let the Kima deathwatch begin!
First off, Kima was not around when McNutty conspired this whole "lie," and she wasn't around when Lester joined in & gave Sydnor the option to do so. She was about to work an entire stack of folders based on McNutty's lie until he pulled her aside to advise what was going on. She said she wasn't with it, and when she saw Lester & Sydnor, she lost a degree of respect for them.
Since 1) she was not a part of this conspiracy, 2) did not want a part of this conspiracy, and 3) had her 3 pending homicides held up over this bee-ess, then she's NOT a snitch. She did what she had to do, because REAL police work was being side-tracked to follow a lie. At no point of this show has Kima ever been involved in some dirt.
Like McNutty told Bodie in S4, when you play with dirt, you get dirty. He got what he got.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 3:12 PM
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> > Then why worry that Baltimore is turning into a
> > hellhole or worry about how the game is
> destroying
> > kids like Michael. It is what it is. If the city
> has
> > no response for people like marlo and Chris
> using
> > abandoned buildings to dump bodies, or killing
> off
> > families, or selling their drugs all over town,
> then
> > that's what the city frankly deserves.
> > Don't know why you would make a show addressing
> all
> > the problems though if your solution is to throw
> up
> > your hands and say let Marlo do what he wants
> beucase
> > you can't do anything anyway.
> > It is what it is, but people still have to do
> the
> > right thing. And if it is what it is, why
> complain
> > that McNulty is breaking the law to bring down
> Marlo?
> > Because that is what it is too.
>
> Who said not to worry? Worry away man. Find a better
> way to address an issue than a fake serial killer
> though.
What better way? Take the bus to the crime scene? Have city hall bury the investigation of 22 murderers? Let Marlo kill off all his competition with no response?
Even the "good" police work of Bunk would not have happened if McNulty and Lester didn't run this scam.
Because he, like everyone else was trying to solve crimes and his case files were getting thrown into a drawer over and over.
He would not have been able to bring down Chris, if McNultly didn't open up the spigot and allow the funds to start coming back into the department.
And clearly REAL crimes didn't merit much to city hall or the police department. Its kind of hard to say that McNulty should have found a better way, when the real crimes that were being investigated were being ignored.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 3:10 PM
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> Then why worry that Baltimore is turning into a
> hellhole or worry about how the game is destroying
> kids like Michael. It is what it is. If the city has
> no response for people like marlo and Chris using
> abandoned buildings to dump bodies, or killing off
> families, or selling their drugs all over town, then
> that's what the city frankly deserves.
> Don't know why you would make a show addressing all
> the problems though if your solution is to throw up
> your hands and say let Marlo do what he wants beucase
> you can't do anything anyway.
> It is what it is, but people still have to do the
> right thing. And if it is what it is, why complain
> that McNulty is breaking the law to bring down Marlo?
> Because that is what it is too.
Who said not to worry? Worry away man. Find a better way to address an issue than a fake serial killer though.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 3:07 PM
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> > > And not even Marlo Stanfield is worth all
> of
> > that.
> > > Remove one, another steps in. Meanwhile,
> the
> > city is
> > > in even worse shape financially. It's a
> net
> > loss.
> >
> > But then why complain about how bad the
> neighborhood
> > is? Or how corrupt everything is?
> > That argument suggests that the cops shouldn't
> even
> > n bother fighting crime. So let Marlo just keep
> > stacking up the bodies, killing off all his
> rivals
> > and whoever gets in his way.
> > Maybe the city should just give up on baltimore
> and
> > let Marlo and co. do whatever they want. If
> anyone
> > gets kiled who happens to be living there, oh
> well,
> > can't do anyting about it anyway.
>
> Point taken. My point is that I don't think that
> pursuing Marlo is worth driving the city into
> financial ruin. They've got no money. Politicians
> made the call. It is what it is.
Then why worry that Baltimore is turning into a hellhole or worry about how the game is destroying kids like Michael. It is what it is. If the city has no response for people like marlo and Chris using abandoned buildings to dump bodies, or killing off families, or selling their drugs all over town, then that's what the city frankly deserves.
Don't know why you would make a show addressing all the problems though if your solution is to throw up your hands and say let Marlo do what he wants beucase you can't do anything anyway.
It is what it is, but people still have to do the right thing. And if it is what it is, why complain that McNulty is breaking the law to bring down Marlo? Because that is what it is too.
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Feb 29, 2008 2:59 PM
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> > How would she be able to prove that he hadn't
> seen
> > it? I don't recall seeing Kima coaching Omar's
> > testimony either. Seems to me Omar took the
> oath, so
> > that falls on him.
>
> She new he was lying... He was talking about birds
> deeds and she said we need an eye witness and he
> paused and said Im the eye witness He just wanted
> vengance for Brandon
>
> She then ran over to lester and asked his opinion
>
> I think it was verified by Stringer when he said wors
> on the street is Omar was on the east side the day
> gant got got
Still not seeing how this makes Kima culpable. She thought she may have given Omar the ammo and at least cared enough to get with someone more experienced to see if she screwed up. Doesn't sound like a moral issue to me, and if it is she showed morality by asking someone who knows better whether she was wrong. An asshole wouldn't have cared at all.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 2:56 PM
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Kima should have played like the Bunk, "I DON'T KNOW SH*T!" and let McNulty and Lester fall on their own.
Kima was working on the triple homicide which she clearly stated to The Bunk it lead back to Chris Partlow, DUH she could have kept trying to work that angle along with Bunk.
I bet McNulty wish he had let her a$$ work that pile of files. McNulty screwed up when he started throwing money around and that one A-Hole detective threatened to blackmail him for him and Lester was taking too long.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 29, 2008 2:53 PM
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mmph.... Snitchin Kima.
B*tch, Ill never sit at the lunch table with your tellin ass! lol
Real Talk... Kima ain't real, she's a character that has to do whatever Simon says. This is completely out of character for her. Just like Prop Joe and Omar's actions this season. It's like I'm watching the Bizzarro world version of the wire. What's next Michael smoking crack, or how about Dukie pops Marlo and takes over west B'more. Season five never happened. There were only four seasons of the wire and I'll stick to that story til the cover me with dirt.
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Feb 29, 2008 2:50 PM
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> How would she be able to prove that he hadn't seen
> it? I don't recall seeing Kima coaching Omar's
> testimony either. Seems to me Omar took the oath, so
> that falls on him.
She new he was lying... He was talking about birds deeds and she said we need an eye witness and he paused and said Im the eye witness He just wanted vengance for Brandon
She then ran over to lester and asked his opinion
I think it was verified by Stringer when he said wors on the street is Omar was on the east side the day gant got got
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Feb 29, 2008 2:43 PM
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How would she be able to prove that he hadn't seen it? I don't recall seeing Kima coaching Omar's testimony either. Seems to me Omar took the oath, so that falls on him.
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Feb 29, 2008 2:23 PM
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kind of funny that she had no problems letting Omar lie about him seeing Bird shoot Gant
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 28, 2008 7:40 PM
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> > And not even Marlo Stanfield is worth all of
> that.
> > Remove one, another steps in. Meanwhile, the
> city is
> > in even worse shape financially. It's a net
> loss.
>
> But then why complain about how bad the neighborhood
> is? Or how corrupt everything is?
> That argument suggests that the cops shouldn't even
> n bother fighting crime. So let Marlo just keep
> stacking up the bodies, killing off all his rivals
> and whoever gets in his way.
> Maybe the city should just give up on baltimore and
> let Marlo and co. do whatever they want. If anyone
> gets kiled who happens to be living there, oh well,
> can't do anyting about it anyway.
Point taken. My point is that I don't think that pursuing Marlo is worth driving the city into financial ruin. They've got no money. Politicians made the call. It is what it is.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 28, 2008 7:37 PM
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I just hope beofre they kill here theres a wonderful lesbian scene...LOL I love Kima I'm sure theres a good reason for what she did and McNulty will be FINE. LIVE ON BABYGURL....LOL
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 28, 2008 7:30 PM
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> And not even Marlo Stanfield is worth all of that.
> Remove one, another steps in. Meanwhile, the city is
> in even worse shape financially. It's a net loss.
But then why complain about how bad the neighborhood is? Or how corrupt everything is?
That argument suggests that the cops shouldn't even bother fighting crime. So let Marlo just keep stacking up the bodies, killing off all his rivals and whoever gets in his way.
Maybe the city should just give up on baltimore and let Marlo and co. do whatever they want. If anyone gets kiled who happens to be living there, oh well, can't do anyting about it anyway.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 28, 2008 6:08 PM
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> Kima has lost ALL credibility with me. I forgot about
> her little lies to get the paperwork signed when she
> needed it. I also forgot about her throwing Bubs to
> the side, too, after she no longer needed him.
>
> McNulty did what he thought he had to do to solve the
> vacants murders and get Marlo off the street. But it
> all snowballed on him although he tried his best to
> divert police away from it so they couls work their
> own cases. The only reason that he did tell Kima was
> to stop her from wasting her time going through
> profiles.
>
> And to also think that the one murder that she was
> working was also related to the same people that
> McNulty was after. She doesn't have a clue. Isn't it
> ironic?
>
I know that last part wasnt the main point of your post, but yes she does know that Marlo was behind it. She's the one that told Bunk. She jokingly asked why he pulled all 22 cases out of the drawer, before dropping her triple on the pile and saying "25" before explaining how it went down.
I'm still in the minority in not having much of a problem with what Kima did. If anything, McNulty should've told her a lot sooner - no later than the second time Landsman offered her as a 2nd detective for his investigation. He tried to get her to work her case, but when the bosses call her out by name, she has to follow orders. That's when McNulty should've pulled her to the side, not after she spent a month off of her triple and wasting her time behind his bullshit.
The difference between her reaction and Bunk's is, Bunk was there from jump and wanted no part of it. Had Kima been there, or been told from the beginning, I'd like to believe she'd have bounced as well, perhaps still tell McNulty what to do with himself,but at least make a clean break as she wouldn't have had as much invested into the non-case.
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Re: Kima DeathWatch ( Contains SPOILER from EP 59)
Feb 28, 2008 5:51 PM
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250-300 a year, Marlo or no Marlo. Who's to say the crew that comes in after him isn't even worse? Marlo may be gone, but I don't expect the streets will change much. The biggest change is that the education system is even weaker, as are other city departments. More Marlos, more Dukies, more Mikes, more Kenards, more Omars, etc... The city is in worse shape, and the fall of Marlo doesn't balance it out for me.
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