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Unless i missed the conclusion of this storylone, they just totally left the infamous "Ring" that Mike has out of the picture. Does it come back at the end? For all of the scenes they had with it changing hands i thought they would continue with it.
Does it really end with Marlo saying "Naww you keep it"
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 24, 2008 11:15 AM
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> He definately pissed people off by raising the
> price of the brick. He's not concerned about what
> people think about him. So far, he is untouchable
> from the streets.
He personally is untouchable. His operation and reputation are quite vulnerable though. Omar made that clear. It's about to get even worse since Bunk has Chris caught up.
> Well people always are going to talk, you cant
> change that. All you need to do is dump a few bodies
> uintil people learn to shut the fukc up(as Snoop
> would say...lol) Also, we are talking about the
> baddest, most feared/respected stickup artist West
> Baltimore has seen. Who also ruffed the Barksdale
> Co. and peppered up his mustle as well.
It's past talk though. Omar showed and proved. Omar was certainly feared and respected, but he is one man. There are likely others out there who can bring it, especially if they think they can win. As you say, they can always dump a few bodies, but their ability to do that is diminished by Omar's work and Chris' legal issues. Marlo has Snoop, Mike, and a crippled O-Dog right now. Less muscle, and more territory.
> In Chess Terms: The King shouldnt have to come down
> and squabble with Knight. You be patient, reorganize
> his troops, and while the knight is jumping around
> hooting and hollering, its a good chance a pawn might
> clip him. You're going to loose some troops to a
> good knight, that's inevitable.
Inevitable and devastating. Marlo's queen piece is about to be out of the game, so those bishops and rooks are more valuable than ever. The way I see it, Marlo went and sat himself in the middle of the chessboard because he thought the grass was greener. All the other pieces see the knight picking off layers of protection around the king. They then see the queen fall. They've got him from every side. He can't defend against them all.
> The question is, now that the troublesome knight is
> out of the way, you can work on damage control
> within. Now obviously the show is coming to an end
> and they will close the chapter on Marlo.
Agreed, but where do you find replacements for Marlo's losses? I suppose we'll see. It would be an astronomical rise and fall for him to lose the crown. He would have only held it for a month.
> All Marlo ever wanted to do is become King as he
> was telling Vincent when saying he just want to wear
> the crown. In many ways, he may feel he has
> accomplished his goal that he sat out for when he got
> in the game.
He's satisfied and ready to celebrate. Was damn near skipping from his meet with Vondas. He put himself in a terrible position by going at it the way he did. It's a house of cards.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 23, 2008 8:35 PM
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WOW!! I just finished watching "American Gangster" on DVD, twice, starring Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe. Good movie. It was like a 1970's The Wire of today. Crowe was McNulty. He even did some F-ing in the movie, just like McNulty on The Wire. Denzel was like Marlo; ruthless and relentless. They had wire taps and stakeouts, just like on The Wire.
Crowe, like McNulty, did not stop until he solved his case. Crowe also had marital problems, just like McNulty. There were so many similarities, and the movie is based on the real life Frank Lucas, who was a ruthless gangster originally from N.C. He was a black man who took over the drug cartel in Harlem. He went to SE Asia and got his own drugs. But like any criminal, he finally got his day in court. He was paying off politicians, cops, anyone to keep the drugs coming in and money continually made.
Like on The Wire, there were crooked cops, politicians, Clay Davis', Burrell's, Rawls, and the Nareese's. I wonder if The Wire will have its finale showing who the crooks really were throughout the entire show, and that Burrell, Rawls, and others were on the take all along, and kept the drugs coming into B-More.
I'm sure the final episode of The Wire, which I understand will be an hour and a half long, will be unforgettable. I wouldn't be surprised if Bonds, Pearlman, Daniels, and former Mayor Royce are all locked up on conspiracy charges of some type. Let's wait and see how it plays out on March 9th.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 23, 2008 8:09 PM
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Marlo is definitely ignorant, even to some aspects of the game. He thinks just having the connect is enough. It was a powerful move, but all it got him was access. Joe was able to hold his position by deflecting attention and keeping the target off of him. Marlo is the exact opposite, painting a bullseye on himself and asking for it from every direction. I suppose that's all good when everyone thinks he can't be touched.
He definately pissed people off by raising the price of the brick. He's not concerned about what people think about him. So far, he is untouchable from the streets.
Omar has proved that Marlo can be effectively harassed and disrespected. Even his much touted muscle has taken hits. If one man can cause such problems, imagine a whole town getting it in their heads to come at Marlo the same way.
Well people always are going to talk, you cant change that. All you need to do is dump a few bodies uintil people learn to shut the fukc up(as Snoop would say...lol) Also, we are talking about the baddest, most feared/respected stickup artist West Baltimore has seen. Who also ruffed the Barksdale Co. and peppered up his mustle as well.
In Chess Terms: The King shouldnt have to come down and squabble with Knight. You be patient, reorganize his troops, and while the knight is jumping around hooting and hollering, its a good chance a pawn might clip him. You're going to loose some troops to a good knight, that's inevitable.
The question is, now that the troublesome knight is out of the way, you can work on damage control within. Now obviously the show is coming to an end and they will close the chapter on Marlo.
My guess is that Marlo will get no props for being the main guy for such a brief period. The satisfaction is his own; no one else will care.
All Marlo ever wanted to do is become King as he was telling Vincent when saying he just want to wear the crown. In many ways, he may feel he has accomplished his goal that he sat out for when he got in the game.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 23, 2008 4:17 PM
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And what happen to officer Walker ?
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 23, 2008 10:37 AM
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Marlo is definitely ignorant, even to some aspects of the game. He thinks just having the connect is enough. It was a powerful move, but all it got him was access. Joe was able to hold his position by deflecting attention and keeping the target off of him. Marlo is the exact opposite, painting a bullseye on himself and asking for it from every direction. I suppose that's all good when everyone thinks he can't be touched. Omar has proved that Marlo can be effectively harassed and disrespected. Even his much touted muscle has taken hits. If one man can cause such problems, imagine a whole town getting it in their heads to come at Marlo the same way. My guess is that Marlo will get no props for being the main guy for such a brief period. The satisfaction is his own; no one else will care.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 23, 2008 9:56 AM
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I admit, Marlo is straight up hood. I thought one of the funniest scenes was when he went to check on his money in the islands. He hollered "Y'all got my money in here?" like they automatically know this nigga.
He was uneducated as to how to deal with the cleaning the money and all that, he was ignorant so to speak. But he learned. He made sure he knew everything about everything before he took out Joe. I think he liked Joe and respected Joe for what he done to him, but Marlo is one of those stubborn people, he wanna be the king RIGHT NOW. So he felt he had to take out Joe, the only way to get the connect and be the main nigga in Baltimore. He had everybody scared, he had the fear and the connect...at that point, what he told Joe a while back rung truer than ever "Nobody fucks wit me now"
He was smart in that aspect.
But then his ignorance, which is gonna lead to his quick demise in the game. Dude brought back a menace, he brought back Omar. Dumb move. Joe said "let sleeping dogs lie." Nobody was fuckin with Marlo even after he got took by Omar, but since Omar's arrival, and even after his death, his reputation IMO will be ruined due to Omar for real this second time around.
Now he gonna have to try to restore his name that Omar crushed in the streets, and in doing so, the mad dash will get sloppy and they'll fuck up big time. That's gonna foul him out the game. So he really fucked himself which was ignorant. Shoulda chaulked that up, he aint the only nigga to get robbed by O, nobody can really look down on that.
We'll see how everything play out though.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 11:53 PM
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Michael put the ring on a chain, so if they ever show Mike wearing a chain, that's what happened with the ring.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 7:45 PM
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i do think they should address this! Mike is the MAN young and all, and i hope they don't make him go out like a nut like they Omar (that was the END for me!) And whatever happened to Namond?
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 6:29 PM
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I'm with Wyze on this one. Outside the game, Marlo is straight up ignorant. He was clueless with something as simple as a bank transaction. Doesn't fuck with computers, didn't know shit about getting a passport, what to do with money once he has it...
I think the show has went out of its way to show that Marlo is all the way gangsta, cold and calculated within his element, but severely limited beyond that world.
Understood. But no matter how you spin it, you're only going to be as good as your number 2 in charge. In any organization, you want to have people working for you whose smarter than you in their respective fields. Let's not forget, he did learn what he needed to learn outside of his element. Yes, he had a learning curve in the beginning but i dont think he made as many bad moves as everyone says. We may have to agree to disagree on this one 
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 2:24 PM
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> > I'm not talking so much about his decision
> making but
> > just the way he is.
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> > Yes Marlow is very street smart but you can tell
> by
> > his interactions with people outside of the game
> that
> > he has never been out the hood.
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> > For Marlow igonorance means rude, ill-mannered,
> and
> > inconsiderate as well as un-educated, an
> un-informed.
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> > Focus, motherfucker.......!Focus!
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> Yeah, he can rub people the wrong way...lol However,
> in his line of work, you cant go around catering to
> everyone. I think this conversation could start
> leading into weather or not you want to be "Feared,
> or Respected" I'm sure the ones who last the longest
> on top has a nice mixture of both. Marlo may be a
> 80-20, where fear is the 80 and 20 is the respected.
> Avon was probably 80-20 the other way, but he still
> ll wanted them damn corners...lol
I'm with Wyze on this one. Outside the game, Marlo is straight up ignorant. He was clueless with something as simple as a bank transaction. Doesn't fuck with computers, didn't know shit about getting a passport, what to do with money once he has it...
I think the show has went out of its way to show that Marlo is all the way gangsta, cold and calculated within his element, but severely limited beyond that world.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 1:05 PM
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The RING
Original Owner: Andre .........DEAD!
2nd Owner: Marlo
3rd Owner: Omar
4th Owner: stupid ass cop
5th Owner: Mike
and if you watched season 4 you'll know how all this transpired..........enough already about the ring.....
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 1:03 PM
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> I'm not talking so much about his decision making but
> just the way he is.
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> Yes Marlow is very street smart but you can tell by
> his interactions with people outside of the game that
> he has never been out the hood.
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> For Marlow igonorance means rude, ill-mannered, and
> inconsiderate as well as un-educated, an un-informed.
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> --
> Focus, motherfucker.......!Focus!
Yeah, he can rub people the wrong way...lol However, in his line of work, you cant go around catering to everyone. I think this conversation could start leading into weather or not you want to be "Feared, or Respected" I'm sure the ones who last the longest on top has a nice mixture of both. Marlo may be a 80-20, where fear is the 80 and 20 is the respected. Avon was probably 80-20 the other way, but he still wanted them damn corners...lol
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 12:43 PM
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I'm not talking so much about his decision making but just the way he is.
Yes Marlow is very street smart but you can tell by his interactions with people outside of the game that he has never been out the hood.
For Marlow igonorance means rude, ill-mannered, and inconsiderate as well as un-educated, an un-informed.
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 12:29 PM
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However after this season Marlow comes off extremely ignorant and one to jump to conclusions.
Well i wouldnt say he was ignorant as everyone else says.
Yes, he made the decision to reopen the Omar beef
Yes, he decided to take Prop Joe out
Both of these as we see so far hasnt turned out bad for him. Omar ended up getting taken care of and he is in control of the connect. He may not have any control over his downfall as McNulty and Lester are forcing a case against him. I may be missing some things but he posistioned himself pretty good on the street. The variable that he cant control is the cops. (even though, he was smart and laid low for a year while they were actively following him, with no slip ups i may add)
Nevertheless, i can see why he's the hated man right now. The brilliant writers have written some great good guy characters!
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Re: What about the "Ring" that Mike has
Feb 22, 2008 12:10 PM
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> Wyze,
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> Ok, i can understand that. However, while Marlo and
> Co. was throwing all kinds of money for any kind of
> information in regards to Omar, don't you think he
> would investigate further as to how Mike got the
> ring? Being that the last time Marlo seen it, and
> the subsequent bad blood began when Omar took it from
> him while robbing the Poker game.
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> Nittiman:
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> All the piesces matter
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> Stringer!
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> Stringer: What!
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> He had the floor!
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> Stringer: That Muthafukca too stupid to have the
> floor!
Yeah, they fucked up with that one by not letting Marlow follow-up on it. Especially once the beef re-kindled. Back in season 4 I gave Marlow a lot of credit for being smart so than I assumed he would know the ring travelled some before getting to Mike. However after this season Marlow comes off extremely ignorant and one to jump to conclusions. I have no idea why the writers didn't let him ask more questions about the ring.
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